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Disaster Zone Podcast: ‘Retired from a Paycheck’

Lessons from four decades of studying emergency management.

Retired from a Paycheck” is the latest Disaster Zone podcast.

This podcast was done with a long-serving person who researched emergency management and has written and edited books on the history of our profession. I included a more lengthy bio on Claire Rubin because some of you might not be familiar with her work. I’m guessing if you have a degree in emergency management you will have read one or more of the books she has been involved with.

Podcast description:

“Sometimes it is good to look back at how far we have come and then forward, to where we might be headed in the future. My guest today is Claire Rubin blogs at Recovery Diva, but has a much more extensive connection to all phases of the broader topic of emergency management. We talk in this podcast about a wide variety of topics, to include how professional emergency managers can continue to contribute after our paid careers are finished.

“For a more detailed list of Claire’s accomplishments, see this bio: Ms. Rubin is a consultant and social scientist with 44 years of experience in emergency management and homeland security. Her considerable experience in disaster recovery has made her a sought-after expert to conduct independent research, teach, and provide sound advice and counsel. Her firm has produced a variety of educational products and services, most notably a monograph on disaster recovery, the Disaster Time Line series, and the Disaster Bookstore,

“Ms. Rubin was affiliated with The George Washington University’s Institute for Crisis, Disaster, and Risk Management from 1998 through 2014. During that time she was Co-Founder and Managing Editor of The Journal of Homeland Security and Emergency Management.

“Ms. Rubin is the author or editor of five books and more than 100 articles for professional publications. She is a frequent speaker and lecturer on emergency management and homeland security topics in the U.S. and occasionally in other countries. Among her recent activities was a multi-session effort to brief delegations of senior emergency managers from China, on the state of the practice of emergency management in the U.S.

“She created and has maintained for the past 13 years the blog on disaster recovery called Recovery Diva ( She also is the co-founder and moderator for three Facebook groups on emergency management.”
Eric Holdeman is a contributing writer for Emergency Management magazine and is the former director of the King County, Wash., Office of Emergency Management.